Resurrection Life 4a
1) Why didn’t the disciples recognize Jesus after His resurrection, in His new body?
2) What does one look like in their new body?
3) Do I have to physically die to have a changed body here on earth?
4) When will this occur, the return of those passed on?
5) Will the people here who are changed be as those passed on?
6) What will they do here?
7) What is our conception of this??
We are now on to question # 2
2) What does one look like in their new body?
I will try and describe and explain the physical of the body, for the body takes on a different look. As we saw in the first question, it was not the eyes seeing that caused them to know a person. And, I can not say it is this way – the way in which I will try and describe – always. But has been each time He has allowed me or others to see such.
Ok, how do I say this, lol. The body is the same, it is the individuals. YET, it is free from many things.
What I have seen is:
No sickness, total health and vibrancy and a new glow or presence of being. I don’t believe one has to have this shown forth – but it can, for the purposes HE declares forth (the glow). I have always seen the people as if they are younger – but not necessarily talking of age. This world we live in, plays a toll on our physical. In the New Bodies I have seen, it is as if that never was. Total restoration has been completed – you could say. What would one look like if there was no sickness or sin, to cause a toll on the physical. Jesus paid the price for all that – and we will simply see that manifested, that’s all. So yes, ones hair may be longer, the original color as when younger in age, no scares of illnesses or sin are seen. And anything brought on from sin – which is death – is now gone. BUT, He can choose to show forth someone – in a different state at that. Say – full of Glory. Now what would be seen? However He so chooses at that time.
One here in this earth world, meeting upon another manifested – may see Jesus. And another time – see the person.
I think that covers this question.
But I can give some instances along the way, in this writing. But one has to take into affect: the identification of matter and energy, particle and wave. We generalize things as matter or spirit. But what really is what?
The one time – in a dream at night – but I was more like awake – and this being real – There was a need in NY city. A gang was about to harm greatly, one man. I was as if I was light, and right quick, I was there.To the natural eye,I was seen, but not really as a person – I don’t think (I was not able then to see through their eyes, at what they were seeing – only from my seeing). I was seen and did come down from above, full of a very bright light. The gang knew they were up against something they could not fight – and fled in shock and fear. The man was saved from, most likely, death, in a very brutal way.
In the most recent incident, I was wailing, crying out in DEEP intercession crying out, NO! NO!, for what, I did not know in my head – but obviously I did in my spirit. Then it started backing off, and I went over to Pat. Oh was he beautiful. I fully believe I was seeing him in his resurrected body. And of course, had another walked into the room, seen him in that manner, they most likely would not have recognized him. For they would know him in the body of the earthy, not his new one, and expect him to look the same way. Age had not paid a toll on his New body at all. Very cool indeed. Praises to the Most high.
I will add more in here, but right now – I can’t even think, lol. Obviously something is going on – the dog keeps going to a wall and facing it – or a corner and faces that, lol. Is someone putting themselves on a time out??? Did someone do wrong?? And they KNOW it!?
Anyways – I perceive stuff going on – but am to get on with this page.
# 3) Do I have to physically die to have a changed body here on earth?
This is an easy one to answer. NO. You may have to die standing up – to whatever degree He has determined, but that’s it. Our Blessed Hope. Salvation #3, that of the physical body. Just be born in the right era and you may be one. I fully believe this is that day. But don’t expect to have the 3rd salvation – without the 2nd or first. DO Grand Opportunity and walk by faith following the leading of the Spirit within. As the Scriptures say: Deny NOT the POWER within!!! It has amazing abilities. Most all of this website is dedicated to the 2nd salvation – that of the soul (mind, will and emotions) of mankind. The sanctification process.
# 4) When will this occur, the return of those passed on?
Any time – Ready and Waiting
1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1Pe 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1Pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
(which time, I believe it is) But how will we see Him, or others, when He comes? To what degree will this be manifested, Now?
1 John 3:1-2 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
John was speaking of this future and 3rd aspect of our salvation when he said: that it does yet appear what we will be.
It is also of this 3rd and full salvation that Jesus was referring when he spoke of our redemption drawing near.
Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Philippians 3:20-21 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
BUT, May I add in here; that eternity changes NOT, It IS present right now – it has no beginning and no end. So is it possible for things to take place that in my thinking, is not the right timing? YES! How else can one walk in what others would consider future.
……. And: The days of Methuselah will be restored. Age, as in time of days – length of day – will increase to that of Methuselah.
Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
Times, dispensations, and ages all have beginnings and all have ends. But when time ends, eternity does not begin, because eternity has no beginning. Neither did it end when time began. Ages have their place in eternity in the same way that minutes have their place in years, except that years end and eternity doesn’t. So there needs to be a distinction between ages, which belong to time, and eternity, which is timeless. Failure to understand the Words of the Bible in this, does make one to believe something that just isn’t true.
For many in the Old testament look ahead and walked therein. But there is coming a time – that I rarely hear anyone speak about, and in which I look forward to. That being: The Restitution of All Things.
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution (restoration) of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
I don’t mean to get off into this – but it is important.
The grammatical construction of this sentence declares: that Peter was actually saying that all the prophets from the beginning of the world had prophesied that there would be a restoration of all things and that the restoration would indeed be universal and would include all things.
Here are a few who state it rightly:
Moffatt “That the Lord may send Jesus, your long-decreed Christ, who must be kept in heaven till the period of the great Restoration. Ages ago God spoke of this by the lips of His holy prophets.”
Weymouth “Heaven must receive Him until those times of which God has spoken from the earliest ages through the lips of His holy prophets – the times of the restitution of all things.”
Young’s literal “Whom it behooveth heaven, indeed, to receive till times of a restitution of all things, which God spake through the mouth of all His holy prophets from the age.”
And where do we see them speaking of such – the Prophets of old? All over.
Have you noticed: the prophets, while prophesying terrible doom and gloom on the unbelieving and rebellious people, suddenly stop, to revel in the coming glory?
Isaiah 39 to 40 is such an example: the prophet tells of Judah’s coming captivity in Babylon. Then he breaks forth with consolation:
Isa 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
Isa 40:2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD’S hand double for all her sins.
Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Isa 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
Isa 40:5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
And in Isaiah 35:1-7:
Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
Isa 35:2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
Isa 35:3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
Isa 35:4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
Isa 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
Isa 35:6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Isa 35:7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
Somewhere it say: there will be no sickness among them, no feeble…
Isaiah speaks much of the glory of these coming times as he speaks of the restoration / restitution of nations, of Israelites, of Gentiles, of wilderness and desert places, lands that are barren as well as wonderful physical restoration, which prefigures the coming state of incorruption and immortality, which is the 8th day and after the millennial age. (If I am not mistaken. lol check back then, I am busy now just making to the next age, and changed – this is what He has revealed to me – not after that – not yet) BUT we have some who walk in that prior, who will rule and reign with Christ here, putting all things back in order.
Daniel saw and was carried in spirit far into the times of restoration when he said:
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Best to really understand Clouds!!!!
# 5) Will the people here who are changed be as those passed on?
Of the righteous – YES
# 6) What will they do here?
# 7) What is our conception of this??
I had the above done – and right then the site lost its hold, lol, on some settings.
It was really good, and will redo ? – but no way can I say it like it was, oh well.
Anyways I wanted to share something. Before I go on, and forget to post it.
Yesterday, we had to go somewhere – Gods directions. And as we went – a song started playing on the tape. Song title maybe? not sure; “I’m My Beloveds and He Is Mine”. It talks of the winds blowing through the garden so the fragrance can go out. Then it says: Lo, are the horses now in sight, he is dressed in Royal White… Right then off to the side of the road, was a whole herd of wild horses. Amazing. We see them now and then – but not that often. We are real close folks. He is real close. Showing forth in this natural.
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# 6) What will they do here?
Rule, Reign & Restore
# 7) What is our conception of this??
Ones concept depends on first, their state of being and next, the teaching and seeing from where they are at. So this can vary from person to person. But this should not be – not as we see it today.
An example of this would be: A preacher who knew truth. But because his state of being and his training, he misapplied the meaning he knew. He told the congregation, weeping, that they – he included, after going to heaven (being raptured as in, poof, they are all gone) that they would NOT see Jesus. He knew this from the scriptures, let alone how ever else he knew, which it seemed it was through an encounter with God. This pastor told us that First, there would be Great Repentance, for we could not see the Lord otherwise. He quoted scripture to prove this. But the scriptures also say, just to name one:
2Co 5:8 We are (f) confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
(f) And yet we are in such a manner confident and do so pass on our pilgrimage with a valiant and peaceful mind, that yet nonetheless we had rather depart from here to the Lord.
Yet, he knew we would not be present with the Lord. Oh, he saw indeed, the holiness and such that one had to be in, to even see the Lord. Yet believed this was impossible on this side.
Now, what I think and fully believe got his viewing off was: His take on the rapture. And fear of the spiritual aspect, being a fundamental preacher. Or else he would have seen, that the repentance would be down here. Everything he said that day, I thought then: well that will happen here, not up there. And that was one of the reasons I sought the Lord so since the late 70s, for answers as to the real happening, in regards to the rapture.
So a misapplying what will be here, to happening up in heaven – which place, we can not be, until such repentance takes place…. Yet as stated, we are up there.
Did I make this picture plain enough? I pray so.
But there will Indeed be a catching up – as the scriptures say. We just need to First get divine revelation and our our heads a bit higher – out of this earthy.
This is much like the thinking of the New Jerusalem. That of it coming down – as the Scriptures say – but how could it come here, goes the thinking of man? It is higher than here, So the thinking states: that it will be suspended above the earth. A building as described in the Bible – held up, above the earth, and there is where we would live, in our mansions.
But the city is the people – the Bride. But again, there seems to be some spirit that closes the eyes to seeing – when it comes to the rapture teaching – as told the many. This is NOT to take away from the heart condition of anyone. For I believe that one can have wrong doctrine and be so very right in their hearts and walk into the new – IF, they being a christian, keep humbleness and a broken heart before the Most High, within their being. Some become very not right when someone speaks other than their way of seeing.
I only mention this because I believe that repentance seen by that preacher, is about to take place here on earth. And it hurts no one to start now.
Now I would like to just chat and share a few things in regards to and pertaining to this subject matter..
1) One time I saw a heavenly place – even though it was or appeared totally to be in heaven, for there was someones mansion I saw, etc. and flowers that didn’t die that bore the mark of gold etc. and I rode a horse through the meadows to get there. Yet one thing stood out. That this person was in need of getting through here, was also there. As if that area, though as a whole they lived there, that area within which carried an outward darkness, was in need. It was as though they lived in their mansion now and here – but didn’t know it.
2) Another time I was caught up and carried away by an angel. I flew through the air (It holding me), over the different states which I had never been prior. We came down to what appeared to be this natural earth (as this is what it was like, even when we flew there) and a certain state. But as we entered the land or property, it like, went into a different state of being. I hate to use the word dimension – because that carries a thought or feeling as if it is like the twilight zone or something. This was totally natural, so it appeared. We went into a mansion. A Grand mansion. But there were no furnishings except a very large table and chair or chairs. Mind you – I was fully awake when this took place. The man of the house came down to where we were, and brought with him a document on parchment paper – so it appeared. Yet very old looking. I read it – but it was in a different language, yet I fully understood it while I read it. Then I signed it. I was taken back home very quickly (like light traveling) and not with the aww of seeing the states from above as I did in coming.
I never knew for sure, what that was about.
In the first 2 above, I see that there is more than what meets the eyes. And ONLY when or if He chooses, for His purposes to open them, do we see things that we believe should only be or take place, someplace else (that we call heaven).
Yet we sing: Heaven came down and Glory filled my soul. I really wish I had the right words to speak. But I can’t and don’t seek such things as these – Just the He and His Kingdom and righteousness. So I even feel a bit off asking. I can report though.
So is heaven a realm of spirit. Not fixed in time. Yet there really may be a real place, as such. Beings there is a real earth! Maybe not though. I think more understand will be coming – in regards to all this.
Oh, these earth bound minds. What shall we do.
3) John 7:32 (14)The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him.
(14) As the kingdom of God increases, so increases the rage of his enemies, till at last they seek in vain for those missing blessings which they despised when they were present.
Joh 7:33 Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me.
Joh 7:34 Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come.
Joh 7:35 Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?
So again – Jesus is someplace here (spiritually, I would call it), and yet it is where He is going.
Again – I am at a lose for words to explain.
4) Some one had a vision of days ahead. It was of Pat and I. It was winter time, yet Pat we were not affected by the elements of cold, heat etc. People were getting their lives in order – for something had taken place to cause this desire. We worked and helped out – as we would with bodies that were affected by weather etc. But it was others, who were younger, who needed to get through some things.
5) There have been many incidences of people seeing others as youthful and full of Life. Each time – their physical bodies were healthy, and if larger now – they weren’t then. Yet they were never this stick thin, which would appear the opposite of pleasingly plump.
One such happening – the person seeing kept waiting for the person they were seeing, to say something in regards to their appearance. The person seeing, actually thought it was real, then.
What did they see? Was it real – but not yet manifested? I tell you – these days should be very interesting indeed.
I think thats it. And I pray Divine revelation comes forth, for greater understanding for all our benifit – too those who have read this.
May it stir within and He within, start to reveal things that the body is in need of, for understanding for growth.